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Post by Posidonsdaughter on Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:51 am

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Okay if you want to read the first two chapters of THE LOST HERO go to The Lost Hero site and in the clue box put NEWHERO. Enjoy the read. If you do not want to know, stop reading this thread.

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Post by DiaClaireNoel on Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:29 am

i think she's Persephone... and i think Leo is hephaestus.
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Post by veni-vidi-vici on Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:12 am

Leo - blatantly Hephaestus's kid, i don't think its possible to argue anything else given his habit of tinkering with mechanical devices.

Piper - well find out which goddess has multi coloured eyes, i'm sure its been mentioned in one of the books, id do it myself but i'm doing exams at the moment.

Jason - i think we've all agreed hes Zeus's kid, with the lightning tricks and fly boy skills, as to where he comes from who knows but we'll find out why hes rambling on in Latin lately.
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Re: THE LOST HERO - Spoiler Alert - Discussion of the first two chapters.

Post by tinkerirock on Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:48 am

well they say that Jason is like powerful, but i don't think a child of zues would be able to do the air tricks. maybe its some ancient god thats very powerful
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Post by percabethsprincess on Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:24 pm

well they say that Jason is like powerful, but i don't think a child of zues would be able to do the air tricks. maybe its some ancient god thats very powerful


oh... i like that idea! Smile



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Post by penguinsoldier on Tue Jun 15, 2010 4:57 pm

On the coin that Jason flips in order to turn it into a sword, the inscription is IVLIVS, which is how they used to write Julius (possibly Ceasar). This might explain the use of Roman names for the monsters.

Piper could be the daughter of Peitho, the greek goddess of persuasion, explaining the 'borrowing' of the car by her. Also, Peitho is very close to Aphrodite, which may explain the scent of cinnamon on Piper's breath, as Aphrodite is sometimes associated with cinnamon.
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Re: THE LOST HERO - Spoiler Alert - Discussion of the first two chapters.

Post by Posidonsdaughter on Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:39 pm

Good point Penguin. Do you know how strong a goddess she was? The thing that got me was Hedge saying they were both very strong halfbloods.

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Post by Shade on Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:48 pm

I don't think that Leo i the son of Hephaestus beacuse his children are supposed to have fare of heights becuse Hephaestus was thrown of Olympus. I still think that Leo is the son of Hermes.
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Post by hoff18 on Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:15 pm

tinkerirock wrote:well they say that Jason is like powerful, but i don't think a child of zues would be able to do the air tricks. maybe its some ancient god thats very powerful



So you're saying that Jason is the son of a Titan, or are refering to the Titans Parents (Gaia and Uranus)?
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Post by veni-vidi-vici on Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:28 pm

Zeus isn't the god of lighting you know.. hes the god of the heavens, skies and everything that isn't on, under ground or part of the sea...and think about it.. percy's powers increased through out the series coming to the point where he was using a hurricane to beat up a titan Neutral Jason's powers could have just developed over a long period of time... i still bet on time travel with a memory wipe...
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Post by hoff18 on Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:43 am

veni-vidi-vici wrote:Zeus isn't the god of lighting you know.. hes the god of the heavens, skies and everything that isn't on, under ground or part of the sea...and think about it.. percy's powers increased through out the series coming to the point where he was using a hurricane to beat up a titan Neutral Jason's powers could have just developed over a long period of time... i still bet on time travel with a memory wipe...

I agree with you, the fact that he uses Roman names for things could mean that he's been kept at the lotus casino. But if what you're saying is true then he would've been trained by Chiron if he was a Known son of Zeus.
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Post by riczhang on Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:34 am

hoff18 wrote:
veni-vidi-vici wrote:Zeus isn't the god of lighting you know.. hes the god of the heavens, skies and everything that isn't on, under ground or part of the sea...and think about it.. percy's powers increased through out the series coming to the point where he was using a hurricane to beat up a titan Neutral Jason's powers could have just developed over a long period of time... i still bet on time travel with a memory wipe...

I agree with you, the fact that he uses Roman names for things could mean that he's been kept at the lotus casino. But if what you're saying is true then he would've been trained by Chiron if he was a Known son of Zeus.



That would also explain the amnesia, staying in the Lotus Casino for along time could result in that, like not knowing how old you are, or he could've been bathed in the river Lethe like Nico...

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Re: THE LOST HERO - Spoiler Alert - Discussion of the first two chapters.

Post by Son of Zeus on Wed Jul 14, 2010 4:50 am

Maybe their mistress is Echidna because the venti are typhons sons and Echidna is typhons wife so she's mad because the demi-gods beat typhon and wants to kill all of them
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Post by SophiaFoutsitzis on Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:32 am

Son of Zeus wrote:Maybe their mistress is Echidna because the venti are typhons sons and Echidna is typhons wife so she's mad because the demi-gods beat typhon and wants to kill all of them

yea thats also a good point. i think this series will have a lot to do with Typhon because in the Last Olympian they did trap him but weren't sure how long it would hold. So i think he will be a major problem throughout the series.
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Post by DiaClaireNoel on Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:40 pm

i think he was bathed in the lethe...thats my opinion. idk what other way he could lose his memory like that. unless he hit his head reeeeeally hard. but then hed have a concussion and his head would hurt
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Post by tinkerirock on Wed Jul 14, 2010 4:05 pm

yeaa. but i think it had something to do with the gods and/or the mist. so it was something that someone had tricked him
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Post by Clevarian on Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:31 pm

Maybe his memory loss could have something to do with Mnemosyne. She's the Titaness of memory and she has a diadem that can make people forget things.
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Post by percyjackson101 on Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:07 am

Clevarian wrote:Maybe his memory loss could have something to do with Mnemosyne. She's the Titaness of memory and she has a diadem that can make people forget things.

that could do with the whole "mistress" thing. it fits in pretty good, and maybe she captured Percy as bait for the others and then they may fall into her trap
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Post by PJO-geek on Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:18 am

Did anyone ever think that maybe Jason could be Luke 'reborn' and bathed in the Lethe with the help of Kronos somehow?

Although, usually when someone is reborn, I'm guessing that they'd literally be reborn,... and we have no idea what happened to Kronos, cuz he exploded into dust in the Last Olympian. But I doubt he'd have reformed his conciousness that fast.... Just an assumption.

I think Leo's dad is either Hephaestus or Hermes, cuz it never said that Leo was afraid of being up that high...and if he is a son of Hephaesus, he could be an odd ball and not be afraid of heights...

I think Piper would probably be a daughter of Peresephone, cuz of the eye changing thing...

Jason, probably a son of Zeus. Just because Thalia hasn't flown before, doesn't mean she can't.

I do not think that Percy is the narrarator, cuz he's missing, so he wouldn't of known all the details of what's going on. Rick Riordan is just simply using 3rd person. It's a new thing for a new series. As that one saying goes, too much of one thing can be unhealthy. Bad similarity, but you know what I mean.

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Post by tinkerirock on Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:22 am

i agree that it's a chance that jason could be rebirth of Luke but his life was probably where all the hero's souls went.

i think that Jason is the son of another god. he seems too powerful for zues
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Post by Clevarian on Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:34 am

I don't think Jason is Luke reborn. It's nice to hope, but it just doesn't feel right.

Leo is most definately a son of Hephaestus. When the Cover was released, I went on Amazon to preorder it for a friend of the family (she's doesn't have internet) and they had a synopsis/book description posted that made it blatantly clear that Leo was a son of Hephaestus. When I checked it the next day it had been taken down. Thankfully I had saved the description for an article I was writing on another site.


"Jason has a problem.
He doesn’t remember anything before waking up on a school bus holding hands with a girl. Apparently she’s his girlfriend Piper, his best friend is a kid named Leo, and they’re all students in the Wilderness School, a boarding school for "bad kids." What he did to end up here, Jason has no idea—except that everything seems very wrong.

Piper has a secret. Her father has been missing for three days, and her vivid nightmares reveal that he’s in terrible danger. Now her boyfriend doesn’t recognize her, and when a freak storm and strange creatures attack during a school field trip, she, Jason, and Leo are whisked away to someplace called Camp Half-Blood. What is going on?

Leo has a way with tools. His new cabin at Camp Half-Blood is filled with them. Seriously, the place beats Wilderness School hands down, with its weapons training, monsters, and fine-looking girls. What’s troubling is the curse everyone keeps talking about, and that a camper’s gone missing. Weirdest of all, his bunkmates insist they are all—including Leo—related to a god."





Piper I will agree sounds like a daughter of Persephone, but I can't ignore the fact that she talked a car dealer into letting her borrow a car...that seems like something a daughter of Peitho (goddess of persuasion and seduction) would be able to do.


I'm pretty sure that Jason isn't a son of Zeus. He just has too many traits indicative of Boreas (the North Wind). He is named for Jason (Argonautica) who traveled with a set of brothers who could fly. Said brothers were called the Boreads, sons of Boreas. In the second chapter it states that he was riding the wind. And, it was pointed out to me that Jason is wearing a purple shirt in the beggining, which is the same color of Boreas' wings.
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Post by tinkerirock on Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:46 pm

wow thats a really good idea. yea, so jason could be the son of Boreas, because of the wind thing and everything, but how could he be a powerful demigod?
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Post by DiaClaireNoel on Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:33 pm

i think he's a son of Zeus. that is my opinion. cuz he's apparently really powerful, and a minor wind god wouldnt get that much attention. and he also wouldnt be able to manipulate the mist so much, and make everyone think he's been there for years.
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Post by Clevarian on Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:45 pm

Who says that the power of the demigod has to be a direct effect of the immortal parent's status? Just because a god is called a "minor" god doesn't mean he isn't important, or that he is weaker than the "major" ones. It's a hierarchy not based on powers and ability, but rather on who's who in the family. Think about it, The 12 olympians are all immediate family of Zeus (i.e.sister, child, wife) with the exception of of Aphrodite. The "minor gods" on the other hand are more often than not, cousins or something to that degree.
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Post by tinkerirock on Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:37 pm

good point. so he could be powerful.
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Post by DiaClaireNoel on Sun Jul 18, 2010 3:21 am

But I'm pretty sure Rick said himself that minor god's children would be less powerful...and think about it, the big 3's kids are more powerful than other demigods, so it would make sense that as the god's power or status goes down, the demigod's power goes down.
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