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Post by posiden#1god Sun Apr 04, 2010 2:09 am

Water v.s. Fire

It's very easy to do this all you do is post you opinon, What do you like better Water or Fire to control as an ability.

I personly would choose water because its 70% of the world and it helps if you thersty. Just to let every budy know, I ment the crust of the earth only and not the mantal or core


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Post by Posidonsdaughter Sun Apr 04, 2010 2:40 am

This is fairly simple fire can not exit without, fuel, heat, and air. Take any of those away and fire dies. It is an incredibly destructive force but not the greatest weapon. As you stated due to the abundance of water on our planet, having the ability to control it would make it a greater weapon.
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Post by penguinsoldier Sun Apr 04, 2010 3:11 am

Controlling fire isn't an option unless you're talking about controlling something which is on fire, like controlling burning methane or oil, since a fire is more a process of burning rather than a thing in itself. In terms if propulsion, burning methane can't be propelled very far without either slowing consierably or burning out. Oil has greater range though.

Water confuses me. Is it pure water that is in question, or just any water? It is also very heavy, and I imagine would take quite an effort to shift, special powers or not. Also it isn't 70% of the earth, merely that it covers 70% of the surface.

Going back to the fire idea. Suppose it was the power to intiate nuclear fusion whenever you wanted. This is what fuels the sun, by forcing atoms and molecules together to form new ones, and releasing massive energy through the process. Just a thought.
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Post by Posidonsdaughter Sun Apr 04, 2010 3:26 am

What is your major at your university?
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Post by penguinsoldier Sun Apr 04, 2010 3:32 am

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Post by Posidonsdaughter Sun Apr 04, 2010 3:51 am

No wonder you can expound so well. I still take water though. I grew up with my dad and brother as volunteer firemen. I have seen all my life the destructive force of fire, ander the power of water. Water is heavy and hard lift. The force of water is incredibly strong. Look at floods, tsunami, water falls, etc. I'll stick with water.
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Post by veni-vidi-vici Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:18 am

Water for sure, it always wins in the end. Water can put out fires, water can destroy almost anything, water is one of the oddest and most useful substances in existence. Arguably if you have control of water then you have control of every single human being seeing as we are all made of a large percentage of water, (60-70% i think). If you control water you can destroy a human being by simply removing the water content from their body, or if you were powerful enough you could literally control movement by shifting the water content of their body.(e.g. raise arm by moving water content in it upwards).

Water may take longer than fire to destroy something but it exists independently without needing anything to fuel it. It can erode and dissolve a hell of a lot of materials, may take thousands of years but water will always win. Unless you can overcome the covalent bonds between the oxygen and hydrogen.

So water all the way.
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Post by posiden#1god Sun Apr 04, 2010 1:42 pm

I ment all water just saying . I know that its just the crust but since the mantle is two hot and deep and the core is basicilly lava and probably something we will never see in our life time i only ment the crust, sorry i should have been more specific Water is better in my opinion because i now what fire can do one of my friends lost her grandfather to a fire set by a piromaniac, yes water can also do harm but fire can do more. You add water to fire the fire goes out but you add fire to water you get danerous hot steam. so yes i still go will water.
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Post by tinkerirock Sun Apr 04, 2010 2:16 pm

Im going with fire because even if you add water to fire, sometimes it just makes it worser.
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Post by PJO-geek Sun Apr 04, 2010 2:29 pm

I have to say I'm going with water. Just like everyone else said, water can destroy anything. Even if it takes thousands of years.
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Post by riczhang Sun Apr 04, 2010 4:17 pm

Water, because even though the earth was originally fire, water came and put out the fire and became the dominant element in the world, so like everyone has said even if it takes time water always win. Like it is said soldiers win battles, but tacticians win wars. So I suppose fire has the better offensive, but water is really the more strong, and patient one, which in the end makes water the stronger one.
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Post by Posidonsdaughter Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:58 am

It covered the Earth in the great flood of Noah.
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Post by riczhang Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:13 am

Posidonsdaughter wrote:It covered the Earth in the great flood of Noah.

Yeah, and killed everything.
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Post by Posidonsdaughter Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:39 am

The water receded and life returned to the Earth.
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Post by Pendragon Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:48 am

THEN THERE WAS A RAINBOW AND A PROMISE GOD WOULD NOT DESTROY THE EARTH AGAIN BY WATER. SO LOOK OUT FOLKS WE'RE GONNA GET TOASTED.
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Post by posiden#1god Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:22 am

ok thanks for posting who knows what happenswhen you mix wter and fire?
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Post by riczhang Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:43 am

posiden#1god wrote:ok thanks for posting who knows what happenswhen you mix wter and fire?

Won't superheated steam be produced?
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Post by penguinsoldier Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:39 am

I'm still undecided, but here's some factors to think about.

Water is really heavy. If you've ever carried a bucket of water you'll know it's heavier then expected. Controlling water would most probably have a toll on the user.

I agree that it is more useful and vesatile then fire, but fire is useful too, like when you need to get a bonfire going, stuff like that.

I think fire would be faster than water as well, since you would have to force the heavy water towards your enemy, whereas fire I think would almost be weightless.

In a fight between the two I would definitely choose water because fire just can't compete derectly with water, as Percy showed us in the film when he fought the Hydra. Although fire might stand a chance. Even a simple candle fire is 1000 degrees centigrade/1830 degrees farenheit (wikipedia), and at that temperature I bet water can't even get close to the fire without evaporating.
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Post by tinkerirock Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:19 pm

i think that makes a great point. so im going with fire.
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Post by DiaClaireNoel Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:57 pm

i vote water... water kills fire faster than fire kills water... if you had an equal amount of water and fire, the water would last and the fire would burn out
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Post by tinkerirock Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:41 pm

i like fire because its quicker and destroys more things than water does. and fire causes warmth and helps, too.
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Post by DiaClaireNoel Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:53 pm

yeah, water is all cold and stuff. and fire is pretty too... if u look at it the right way... idk, maybe its just me, and im being retarded, but i think fire is really pretty. sometimes if its high enough i can see pictures in it... but maybe im just crazy... i am pretty messed up... im dain bramaged... lol
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Post by riczhang Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:32 am

DiaClaireNoel wrote:yeah, water is all cold and stuff. and fire is pretty too... if u look at it the right way... idk, maybe its just me, and im being retarded, but i think fire is really pretty. sometimes if its high enough i can see pictures in it... but maybe im just crazy... i am pretty messed up... im dain bramaged... lol


Pretty???? Shouldn't you be scared of fire? I mean it would consume you alive, if got the chance.
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Post by DiaClaireNoel Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:39 am

yeah, funny story about that... when i was like 5 years old i actually fell into a fire... and it hurt a lot... and i had to have like these huge ugly casts all over my arms and legs and stuff for a long time, and i hated them... but i still think fire is pretty. the colors are pretty, and it like... dances around Smile yeah, technically i should be afraid of fire, especially after falling into it, but i guess i just weird like that. idk, i just never was afraid of it.
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Post by percyjackson101 Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:41 am

i am burning stuff for my book report (to be creative) and i have to agree with DiaClaireNoel .fire is really pretty if u look close at it (not too close), you can see it slowly burn the material like an army approaching war. and the flames are different colors that blens and swirl. it is a sight no see up close (but not too close) Water v.s. Fire Icon_biggrin
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